View Full Version : Improving the lie.
Brookwood
11-09-2007, 11:53 AM
I went up to our par three last night for a bit of practice, in particular chipping out of the rough.
I threw a few balls down into a bunch of clover, the stuff that hides balls until you stand on them, and the stuff I hate on the course.
After hitting a few balls I noticed that during the setup while I was getting lined up and waggling the stick about I was flattening the clover behind the ball.
Just resting the club lightly on the ground behind the ball was enough but after doing it a couple of times the ball was much more exposed at the back.
Does this constitute improving the lie?
Tin Pot
11-09-2007, 11:55 AM
No.
You are allowed to address the ball - the marshalls get grumpy if you go into the rough with a driver, address the ball, then change to a wedge.
Those people know who we mean... :radar:
Rafalution
11-09-2007, 04:40 PM
you go into the rough with a driver, address the ball, then change to a wedge.
That's pushing the bounaries a bit IMO.
Foxholer
11-09-2007, 04:50 PM
[QUOTE=Tin Pot;82640]No.
you go into the rough with a driver, address the ball, then change to a wedge.
QUOTE]
That's pushing the bounaries a bit IMO.
No, that's climbing the fence, wandering across the next field, across the border, over the water, .....
Also known as blatant cheating!
Ross
Nikey Mikey
11-09-2007, 05:12 PM
No.
You are allowed to address the ball - the marshalls get grumpy if you go into the rough with a driver, address the ball, then change to a wedge.
Those people know who we mean... :radar:
That does sound like cheating to me!
i just hack it out haha:laugh:
Vince Baby
11-09-2007, 05:34 PM
I stood within 20 feet of a well known (international) tour golfer at Wentworth in this years PGA. He'd driven into the right ruff at the corner of the 18th. I watched, incredulously as he repeatedly pressed his 5 wood down behind the ball before he hit it.
I was a bit disappointed to be honest, it made me wonder if I'd really seen it.:mask:
MauriceFlitcroft'sGhost
11-09-2007, 06:15 PM
Jumbo Ozaki is / was notorious for improving his lie with his driver. Greg Norman called him out on it once and it is widely accepted that this is the reason he nevers played outside of Japan.
Rule 13-2.
Cliche Guevara
11-09-2007, 07:57 PM
I stood within 20 feet of a well known (international) tour golfer at Wentworth in this years PGA. He'd driven into the right ruff at the corner of the 18th. I watched, incredulously as he repeatedly pressed his 5 wood down behind the ball before he hit it.
I was a bit disappointed to be honest, it made me wonder if I'd really seen it.:mask:
Come on now VB, dont do a Gary Player on us...:rolleyes: name and shame the blighter.
Johnc
11-09-2007, 10:42 PM
I stood within 20 feet of a well known (international) tour golfer at Wentworth in this years PGA. He'd driven into the right ruff at the corner of the 18th. I watched, incredulously as he repeatedly pressed his 5 wood down behind the ball before he hit it.
I was a bit disappointed to be honest, it made me wonder if I'd really seen it.:mask:
Yeah come on, who was it???
Tin Pot
12-09-2007, 08:20 AM
[QUOTE=Rafalution;82792]
No, that's climbing the fence, wandering across the next field, across the border, over the water, .....
Also known as blatant cheating!
Ross
Damnit, I can't find it online anywhere, but I read about it in a magazine. The story was a Pro was widely known for doing this and was finally told to stop messing around in no uncertain terms, but it wasn't a rules infringement. Can't find a link, so I can't defend the truth of it.
Vince Baby
12-09-2007, 08:22 AM
Yeah come on, who was it???
*** whispers.... ***
VJ:(
Tin Pot
12-09-2007, 08:29 AM
*** whispers.... ***
VJ:(
Oooh, you have such a big defamation case being built against you now...
Vince Baby
12-09-2007, 08:36 AM
Oooh, you have such a big defamation case being built against you now...
It's OK, I have a witness....:p
Tin Pot
12-09-2007, 09:01 AM
Found it!
Guess who it was...
Hatpin Molehill
12-09-2007, 09:21 AM
:eek: contraversial
what SLIM odds from Ladbrokes on that ...
VJ and could've been cheating in a sentence :D
at least the legend Woods has the sense to call over a gullible official when he wants to S--TR--E--T--CH an easy to see rule and bend it in a polar opposite direction :twitcy:
Tin Pot
12-09-2007, 09:23 AM
Hint: "Gary, we're gettin' sick of this shit."
Cliche Guevara
12-09-2007, 11:54 PM
Hint: "Gary, we're gettin' sick of this shit."
Gary Player. Think it was Tom Watson who said it
Tin Pot
13-09-2007, 09:07 AM
Gary Player. Think it was Tom Watson who said it
A winner! :wink: