Protein shakes

[marksman007]

Anyone use these for golf or for workouts? What ones do you find give you most energy and/muscle mass if they actually work. Thanks.

[GedK]

I use chocolate on the course and beer after.

I'm down 1.4 strokes this year, so works for me! :tongue:

[Nikey Mikey]

You're a bit young for that yet matey.

I expect you're still growing.:)

[marksman007]

You're a bit young for that yet matey.

I expect you're still growing.:)

I am not looking to be a body builder. Stuff like Amino Vital was what I was looking at.

[PowerPenguin]

If your going to take these supplements you need to hit the gym every other day for a decent period of time. Some of them can make you 'bloat up' if you don't give yourself a work out regularly (once a week is not sufficient).

I almost think some of these things are counter productive, as you have to keep taking them to retain your shape. Your better off just eating the right foods at leaving out the supplements. Half of them probably don't work anyway!

[Coull]

Firstly nice to see you back PP exams all over .... I agree you should just eat healthy , no harm in having the odd cream cake , biscuit, beer, whisky, Fish Supper (by the way Pittenweem Fishy is far better than the over priced Anstruther one and no queues) ....:rolleyes

[jonnyh10]

If you are serious about hitting the gym and using supplements the only thing I would recommend using is CREATINE.

For strength, power and recovery it is the best out there (it does help you bulk up, but thats not important in golf).

Final tip, make sure you stretch properly.

Jon

[Lazlo Woodbine]

Anyone use these for golf or for workouts? What ones do you find give you most energy and/muscle mass if they actually work. Thanks.

Protein powders are just that, powdered protein. A supplement so that it's easier to get enough protein in your diet. Of themselves they won't do much without weight lifting 3-4 times a week. They won't leave you bloated without doing any weight lifting but all they end up being is a low calorie, low fat but filling snack (which is no bad thing)

You can also get mass builders and meal replacement stuff which have other stuff in them like carbs.

If you want an energy drink, try 250ml fruit juice, 250ml water and a pinch of salt. Much the same as the sports drinks you can buy but a fraction of the cost.

I use Whey protein from Myprotein.co.uk. It's the same stuff as the branded varieties but much cheaper. They also sell all the other stuff you might need.

As others have said they are supplements, ie to supplement a healthy diet. Having said that though, it's recommended to eat about 1 gram of protein for every pound of body weight if you want to build muscle, which can be quite hard to do from "whole food". Protein powder can be a cheap way of getting enough of the right nutrients but it's not a substitute.

Creatine, as said above, is an excellent supplement too. It's very hard to get a lot in a normal healthy diet.

[Foxholer]

LW,

I'm told an under-active thyroid does wonders for the body too! :laugh:

Ross

[mhodgkinson]

LW,

I'm told an under-active thyroid does wonders for the body too! :laugh:

Ross


If only Ross, if only :tongue:

[Ian Selley]

Hi Marksman,

Protein is only good if you are going to go to the gym 3 times a weak and looking to do weights to bulk up.

Creatine is a well known supplement and is used in rugby amongst other sports. its main benefits are to increase power/strength (this will not make you hit the ball yards further) and recovery times. The main way it does that is to store water in the muscles.

Amino vitals are only worth using if you are doing a serious weight training exercise and are using most of the above!

From the posts it appears you still have some youth left so I would not reccomend you start the above.

If you eat a very good diet and depending on what you want to do follow an appropriate training program then you will gain results, only then would I reccomend you consider using any of the above.

None of the above are a wonder cure and be aware that strength and muscle will not make you hit the ball 300yds its technique!

My 40 year old 5,8 ex pro can blast the ball miles past a 6,2 18st current England rugby player!!!

I have a fair bit of experience regarding sports nutrition and similar. if you would like to find out more please PM me and I will happily go into more detail and some of the reasoning behind what I have said above.

Cheers

Ian

[jonnyh10]

Hi Marksman,

Protein is only good if you are going to go to the gym 3 times a weak and looking to do weights to bulk up.

Creatine is a well known supplement and is used in rugby amongst other sports. its main benefits are to increase power/strength (this will not make you hit the ball yards further) and recovery times. The main way it does that is to store water in the muscles.

Amino vitals are only worth using if you are doing a serious weight training exercise and are using most of the above!

From the posts it appears you still have some youth left so I would not reccomend you start the above.

If you eat a very good diet and depending on what you want to do follow an appropriate training program then you will gain results, only then would I reccomend you consider using any of the above.

None of the above are a wonder cure and be aware that strength and muscle will not make you hit the ball 300yds its technique!

My 40 year old 5,8 ex pro can blast the ball miles past a 6,2 18st current England rugby player!!!

I have a fair bit of experience regarding sports nutrition and similar. if you would like to find out more please PM me and I will happily go into more detail and some of the reasoning behind what I have said above.

Cheers

Ian

Ian

I agree with most of what you have written above.

However I know for a fact that when I am in good shape (hitting gym, cardio, taking creatine & stretching properly) I hit the ball BETTER & FURTHER.

Hitting the ball a long way is mostly about technique as you say, but if you take the same person, with the same technique (i.e. me) the stronger they are the further the ball will fly. Of course you have to focus on working the correct muscle groups (I have found rotational core exercises to be my new 'thing' down the gym, doing stuff like the 'wood chop').

Not trying to start an argument, just saying my piece.

Jon

[SBL]

Ian

I agree with most of what you have written above.

However I know for a fact that when I am in good shape (hitting gym, cardio, taking creatine & stretching properly) I hit the ball BETTER & FURTHER.

Hitting the ball a long way is mostly about technique as you say, but if you take the same person, with the same technique (i.e. me) the stronger they are the further the ball will fly. Of course you have to focus on working the correct muscle groups (I have found rotational core exercises to be my new 'thing' down the gym, doing stuff like the 'wood chop').

Not trying to start an argument, just saying my piece.

Jon

As anyone who has seen me can confirm, I'm no gym dude but I've got to agree with Johny10. Unless you were to go to an extreme being totally muscle bound where it would hinder, the same person and technique must surely hit the ball further with extra strength.

[Lazlo Woodbine]

I know that since doing some weightlifting over last winter into this year, I've added some yardage to my shots. I've only played a few times this year due to injuries so my technique isn't as polished as last year, but am hitting it further with each club even so.

[Ian Selley]

Jon.

I agree with your piece, the key element here is that you carry out a variety of exercise, weights, cardio, stretching (key point). This has not only helped to build up your core strength (perfect for the coil in the swing) but also helped maintain both muscualr and cardio fitness. Couple all of this together and yes you should hit the ball further.

The creatine helps with recovery and its most common use is in power sports (rugby etc) It does help you train harder so there is a benefit there to golf.

Jon out of interest if you are training on a regular basis with a progamme and have been taking creatine for a while try taking a month off and see if you notice any difference (PM me if you want a bit more info on my expereince with this)

The main aim wof the original post was more to say that he would be better off following a mix of exercises to improve his fitness and core strength and working on his swing technique rather than just doing weights and taking protein to bulk up.

Anyway I am glad my post has sparked a bit of debate.

Ian